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  • I went back and rewatched the scene, and I really don't think that her new power is Bodily Immobilization, as we already partly saw the effect of that power through Cassie and its not the same thing that Macy did. When Macy used her new power, basically a wall of telekinetic force popped up, keeping the demons out and she said that she wasn't sure that she could hold them for long which means that she was literally holding them back and didn't have them frozen. To me, it was more like she was containing them with pure telekinetic force.

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    • However, Macy described her new power as "Immobility" when they were sitting in SafeSpace.
      Perhaps she couldn't hold back the demons for long, because she used this power for the first time and is just learning.
      Or it means that Macy's potential is not as strong like Cassie, who has done this not for the first time.

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    • They do seem like two different powers. I think it's similar to powers based on heat: there is incirnation, heat generation and pyrokinesis, they are powers that have almost the same abilities, maybe it's like that with the powers of immobility.

      I believe that Cassie's power is to control human bodies, the functions of them or something like that. While Macy controls telekinetic forces, her powers are based on movement. Even Abigael, in 2x12, she telekinetically stuck Parker on the ceiling and there was some purple-ish force pushing him.

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    • That's what I'm saying... I think she was holding them still with telekinetic force rather than actually completely stopping their bodily functions which is what Bodily Immobilization is. 

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    • We can just wait for the next episodes and then they can try to give more information about Macy's new power. Not all at once.

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    • I'm inclined to agree. Macy's power is to do with telekinetically stopping things, while Cassie's halts bodily functions. Unless the show brings more to light between the two, Macy's should be classified as something different - the two different effects make it easier to distinguish, since Cassie's just had everyone stop, while Macy's was projecting an energy field that halted everything in it. Perhaps Macy's new power should be called Telekinetic Immobility?

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    • I think it's the same with the telekinetic blast. There's a telekinetic energy that can throw things away with a blast but it can also be used as a wall/field to make things stop.

      We could consider that the difference between telekinesis and its advanced form is that, telekinesis controls the movement of object while advanced telekinesis control kinetic energy itself.

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    • I actually like that idea, TTL. And it makes the most sense with the information that we currently have. 

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    • Only problem with that is 'blast' implies something being thrown or blown up. If we are going to agree that Macy's new power allows her to create fields of telekinetic energy to incapacipate others, then it should be put under Telekinetic Energy Manipulation, with one of the sub-powers being telekinetic blasts, and another this immobilizing power.

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    • When Macy was the Source she attacked Mel and Maggie with a blast and it's put in the page of telekinesis named advanced telekinesis.

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    • I think it's really all just subpowers of her main power. That basically Advanced Telekinesis is this show's version of Telekinetic Energy Manipulation. 

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    • Which makes sense, that Advanced Telekinesis allows the user to not only move multiple and heavy objects, but also manipulate the telekinetic energy to produce a variety of effects, ranging from energy blasts to immobilizing.

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    • Exactly!

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    • Should we keep it as Bodily Immobilization until we get more information or change it now?

      I think we should put it under the advanced telekinesis umbrella of abilities.

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    • Personally, I feel that, with how we understand it now, we should change it now. But it's up to the Admins.

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    • I feel that we should keep it as Bodily Immobilization, but also include it in the Advanced Telekinesis article as a subpower, and better distinguish between the main form and the telekinetic form across the board. Like we did with energy blasts and telekinetic energy blasts. 

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    • Makes sense. We haven't seen Macy use this power on anything inorganic yet, so unless that happens, it's best to do it this way.

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    • Yes, and if she is later shown to be able to immobilize more than just beings, we can make a separate article for the power.

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    • Ok

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    • I hope one day she gets to levitate.

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    • On another note, since we're all here, I think that we should make a separate article for the ability to turn into the swarm of bees that the Carnals showed rather than just having it as "Shapeshifting."

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    • It does look like a type of transportation like smoking.

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    • To be honest, I have no idea who added bees to "Shapeshifting."

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    • At the same time, though, it's similar to Pixies, transforming into those balls of light. And it's not really teleportation, like smoking.

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    • It reminded me of Hunter's smoke form, but with bees instead of smoke. Although, the bees can be used transportively or offensively.

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    • Oh yeah you're right because they didn't seem to magically disappear.

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    • So, it is shapeshifting, but once again a limited form, allowing the user to transform into a swarm of bees? Bee Form?

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    • Swarming Form?

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    • Yes, but I think we should include what Lee did to threaten the Charmed Ones with her hand. It didn't look like claw extension it looked like a bee's stinger which would make it Bee Form.

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    • Either this is the real form of these demons with claws like a bee's stinger.

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    • I think that should stay, because it was used as a claw and not enough of it was shown. 

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    • Pmealer126 makes a valid point - most of what we put on here are assumptions, such as the names of most powers, because not enough info is given in the show itself. And since Lee used it to extend her finger as a means of intimidation, it's better suited for Claw Extension,

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    • She even used it to scratch, not to sting, so unless more information is given, we should keep it that way. 

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